Whatever.
I’m actually neutral in this regard, given the fact the contra-PIPA people are constantly pissing me off by shutting down sites I wanted to use today.
I seriously can’t see the point in a “Hey people, you need to support our petition! Whilst we disable the thing you just wanted to access, have fun!”-strategy.
Don’t mind people making posts or whatever to point at the issue, but pissing others off is not the way to do it.
To clarify this:
I’m not lamenting about sites putting big bold texts to warn unknowing people. Thats a fair move. But they really shouldn’t shutdown sites (rather just hide them behind said texts), as it doesn’t benefit anyone, literally.
edit:
Whilst still STRONGLY disagreeing with the way contra-activists went along. The cause itself is support-worthy.
If you’re new to this, try this link, contains some nice crosslinked information:
http://pressible.org/juliawm/the-sopapipa-blackout-a-guide-cross-posted-from-learning-at-the-library
Well i guess it is to show “What will happen” atleast that is what i got from it.. still freaking annoying -.-‘
Agreed, I think, if this passes, every single one of us should go to DC and sit in front of the white house in protest…..
Wait a damn second, the US can’t control the Internet! No one owns it, especially not them! That’s even more reason to protest this, they are trying to control the Internet!
Now we definently have to protest this. Someone call Notch……and get ready to get your tickets to DC…..if worst comes to worst, we are going there and protesting this…….
This. Is. Unethical.
or you could be a level headed individual and write/call your rep and senator if youre in the US.
nah we’ll go protest even if they dont protest it cause sitting in front of the white house with a sign is just the best thing ever. XD
*pass not protest derp*
Well sad thing is we here in Germany and the whole European Union are also silently putting a nearly identical bill valid for the whole European Union. At least the Americans protest against it, at least they know it. European Media keeps beeing quiet about the issue mostly.
The BVG would stop such laws, because they break the german constitution. They did this before so nothing to worry. If the USA would enforce there law upon german companies this could start some juristic fun, because this companies would repay for this by blocking US-customers.
Yey, let’s have the WWIII in digital form :3
But seriously, this would be a war Germans can’t loose. Noone can disagree with the fact we have the most idiotic-persistant-lolwhattheheck-lawers globally. Never thought i would ever find any positiive reason to mention this XD
PS: If anyone tries to drop in some “lolunazi” trollshit it’s an instant IP lock. And keep in mind new IP’s comments won’t be displayed until approved manually. 😉
This comment was meant to sarcastically pronounce the idiocity of laws we got over here >.>
Not to mention The entire EU is kinda being held together by those German companies as of now lol
and if germany goes to war theyll cut off our anno games
So… they “owe” you their website, and your mad when they don’t provide it to support/spread the word about something that will land in their own demise?
Not exactly, but you don’t get people to do what you want by just replacing your side with a big red NOPE.
A big text telling you “Bla is evil, please support us” and a link “click here to continue to the site” has THE SAME informational effect… withotu the annoying absence of mod tools i need to work on IC.
What mod tools do you need that are blocked? MCP, JDK, and python aren’t blocked, neither is MCF. Forge, MLMP, and ML are all updated to 1.1, so what’s left stopping you from updating?
ModLoaderMP was blocked, as well minecraft.net (ned a fresh server jar)
Unite against this evil. Unite and let them hear our voices say “we will not go quietly into the night!!!”
Scary_One is right. If this bill does pass, from what I understand, then these sites won’t just be going down temporarily, they’ll be going down rather permanently.
My little comment: why punish the corporation when the users break the law?
You used their content and service for free, they helped you when you’re in need. Maybe people are not aware as you(!) to see the consequences of SOPA therefore sites are sarcasticly demonstrating what would happen if it passes. Y U complain about their decisons on how to counter this threat? Your desire “to handy sites you’re currently using should not rant and use this to their advantage” is absurd.
Not complaining about the fact they have an express an oppinion, merely complaining about the way the express this oppinion. As answered in the other comment above.
But if they don’t spread the word to people through drastic measures, like blocking their website alltogether, some of the websites we use every day could be blocked forever. Don’t you think one day is a good trade off for forever???
I completely agree with you Alblaka. I’m so frustrated that the internet is basically down today. I want to look something up on wikipedia… nope. Maybe I can watch a movie… nope. Well, maybe I’ll try out some new minecraft mods…. nope. ModloaderMP is down too.
I get the point, I get why you’re doing this, but still…. AUGASOGIQPOGHASPDGJL!
There’s a line between protesting and just abusing your power.
The most egregious example was at thatguywiththeglasses. He did a bait-and-switch video! That’s just not right!
C’mon guys, I agree with you, but you’re making it *really hard* to put up with you at the moment.
“Abusing your power”?
Seriously, what?
Sorry, I get somewhat unintelligble when I get mad. Basically, I have the same opinion as Alblaka here: I agree with the opinion, I’m just frustrated.
ok now imagine that everyday
thats what they are trying to prevent by showing you what i would be like
wait, what did they do over at thatguywiththeglasses?
(I was busy with essay writing yesterday and didnt even go on)
Stop acting like kids. You’re mad because people are actually trying to make everyone aware of the fact that america tried to basically censor the internet? It’s just one day! You still have the other 364 to do whatever you want!
Alblaka, the point is that MANY people don’t have a clue of what’s going on, and most of them are just basic users who don’t frequent forums and since the media doesn’t cover SOPA/PIPA, they’re blind. But if a website they use protests, that’s different, they become aware of the issue.
Seriously people, it’s not the end of the world because wikipedia closed doors for a day. I understand the annoyance, but at least try to understand everything else.
As i’ve said, protest without entire blackout would have been nice.
Yes, but it would also be pointless.
If people had a “Proceed to the website” button, they would say “whatever” and click it. This way they feel what it would be like, and it becomes effective (theoretically at least).
Take a day off Alblaka, work on IC tomorrow, we can wait.
DGardener speaks the truth. Actually, I think one day is too little. Give people a week or so to sweat it out. The whole f**king internet just to make a point…
DGardener, you’re 100% right. If protests were not this radical, many people would simply ignore them. Sometimes you just have to use a little force to make the sheep realize the herders are taking them to slaughterhouse.
I guess if anything its not fair that people in other countries are denied access so I sympathize with Alblaka on that. Germans shouldnt be punished for the US congress’s mistakes.
As for all the fat, lazy, ignorant Americans that mostly just have contempt for learning : DEAL WITH IT! If that legislation passess thats what the internet will be like every day. If that makes your butt sore don’t take it out on the companies, take it out on your lousy governement. Seriously, bunch of slaves blaming their plight on the chains. Who put you in the chains to begin with?
Heres a lesson to all the naive children: people dont heed to well reasoned arguments, they heed to shock and awe. You can talk til your blue in the face and the response of most people is going to be “LOL 2 LONG DIDNT READ”. You need to figuratively grab them by their hair and smash their face into the issue to get their ADD minds focused on something lacking bells, whistles, and psychological gratification.
Amen to this, DGardener.
To just about everybody else: You people are making me physically angry. Don’t like that these sites are becoming unavailable for 24 hours out of your life? Well, this is about what it’d be like if SOPA and PIPA were to pass – except the sites wouldn’t be available ever again.
But you know what? You’re right! The site is unavailable to you, and that may be mildly inconvenient! How DARE these organizations impinge upon your convenience for 24 full hours for the sake of protesting censorship!?
I feel like I’m listening to morphine addicts whose IVs have been pulled prematurely.
I tolerate discussion and free oppinion, but if you (unintentionally) start trolling people by reforming what they said, i will NOT tolerate it.
Statement was: “Blackouting sites to show up the PIPA issue is wrong and annoying, as there are better or equal ways of providing informations without locking out people.”
Not: “Blackouting sites is annoying.”
Et tu, hmmmm?
My statement was quite clear as well: Saying that “blacking out sites is annoying” AT ALL is rather silly.
I don’t think I was putting words into anybody else’s mouth other than my own, but I apologize if I was unclear.
Could you give some examples as to what those “better or equal ways” are Alblaka?
https://www.industrial-craft.net/?p=318#comment-14834
Its not wrong. They are trying to protect their own websites’ existance. Its not like they owe you their services. In fact in most websites’ cases, its completely free for billions of people. Personally I think that this is pretty much the best way to do it, because not only the people who saw it were informed, but also people who hear about it from their friends and other people on the internet too!
How can you say that you don’t support something because of the strike?
I mean, if a Hospital goes on a strike, you know and accept that you wont be able to have all the services you used to have. Then, why does that piss you off if it happens in Internet?
They decided to do a blackout just to prove that you need that kind of webpages in your normal life, and that if PIPA and SOPA go on, you won’t be able to use those webpages again.
The thing about pissing off internet users is a way of making people aware of what those politicians want to do with Internet, not to piss you.
Btw, if you disable Javascript you can still access Wikipedia.
The only ones that win with PIPA and SOPA are the very big media companies, and the rest of the humans all loose. The thing is that those companies control our governments (In USA and Europe), and that’s why there are a lot of laws only designed for them to win.
Sorry for my English.
I don’t think Flans ModLoaderMP will be affected by PIPA, nor minecraft.net. Don’t use such arguments, they’re overhyped and unreasonable.
If a hospital goes on a strike, they still provide emergency stuff you need. They dont just lock all doors and turn everything off.
Oh sure it would be. Since it contains modified Mojang code, it quite obviously would be in violation of copyright, and could be easily taken down. Now at this point Mojang wouldn’t do it (because of the publicity), but when modding was starting … they sure could have.
And yes, 99% of people would just ignore a warning if they could skip it. Actual blacking out makes action far more likely.
May I’m just too un-peopleish then. If one of the sides i visit frequently asks me to take a second to take a look at x, i usually do.
As i did with the first “STOP PIPA” page i’ve saw this morning. Noticed the whole site was shutdown without any link given, after reading the article.
Following is my own oppinion: I think the whole thing is being hyped up to some degree. Just my thoughts on it.
It’s not. I have multiple big sources saying the same thing. The one source yet to say anything is yogscast……
It’s not the government that will do the censoring, but others will take advantage of it. We CANNOT let this happen!
We must unite all of woman (and man) kind!
I guarantee you this will be abused. I will go to washington DC myself if I have to…..
Yogscast is NOT a valid source. Anyone can put up a Youtube video and claim stuff whilst spreading unreasoned rumors. Not saying they actually do, but may be very well possible.
I was meaning that as more of a joke.
Lol.
Anyways, at least all the sites are unblocked now.
But I think Mojang somehow blocked Minecraft, at least if you had Internet connection (same with Starcraft 2)
Anyways, this thing better not pass,…..
Actually, ALL domestic domains (.net, .com, .org, .us, even if they are hosted overseas) would be subject to SOPA and PIPA.
Dave is correct, the modifications to Minecraft’s code could very well be seen as infringing on intellectual property rights and the entire domain would be blocked outright as a result – even if Mojang isn’t the one to blow the whistle.
Private companies that don’t even necessarily own the content in question would be able to sue for DNS blocking. Additionally, there’s no due process clause for this entire bill. If the Office of the Attorney General arbitrarily decides that you’re infringing upon intellectual property rights, then you’re basically screwed.
You’re stating the bill permits anyone to ban everything from the internet given he has a lawyer and there’s the smallest indicator of something probably being a copyright infringement.
“There are two infinite things: The universe and the human stupidity.” -Einstein
But even then i don’t believe this could possible be the exact effect of that bill, even human politicans couldn’t fail that hard.
I have to ask: have you done any research into the bills themselves, i.e. have you read them?
If not, I can offer you some very good resources explaining the technicalities of the bill, why they’re absurd, or simply point you to the full text of the bill.
Nope i’ve not. Solely drawing information by what people throw around and thus staying quite cautious about assumptions :3 As i’ve said, internet is hype.
If you got a reasonable source (this excludes random (rant)blogs, wikipedia and 4chan), feel free to drop a link. As i’m not a Native English speaker, the actual bill will probably break my head.
Won’t read it now, as it’s nearing 11PM here and i can’t read complicated stuff if i’m tired. But will gladly take a look into it later on.
TB did a pretty good job explaining SOPA if you’re interested http://youtu.be/JhwuXNv8fJM
Anyway, SOPA has been shelved for now, so it’s out of the way, PIPA isn’t though, and it’s a similar bill (I think, didn’t research much about that).
Nice source, many thanks.
“shelved” as in “not accepted” or “delayed because we cant just decline the law we just wanted to set up without loosing our face, but we cant accept it either without being voted by the citizen either”?
This is a good roundup of what I consider to be reliable resources:
http://pressible.org/juliawm/the-sopapipa-blackout-a-guide-cross-posted-from-learning-at-the-library
Inside you’ll find a list of sites participating in the blackout, the official statements of a number of additional sites/organizations that have expressed dissatisfaction over SOPA/PIPA, and even the reactions of Al Jazeera (which I hadn’t seen) and the White House.
It does provide a few linkthroughs to “rant blogs” such as Reddit, but don’t read those if you don’t think they’re valid sources of information. It’s all about thinking critically, yes?
shelved as in the white house came out to say they wouldn’t approve of such bill.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/01/16/sopa-stalls-in-the-face-of-white-house-opposition/
for now…
Ah, read that statement already, didn’t know that == shelved.
Obama did the right thing ^^
I agree.They should have just put something on the website but not blackout it entireley , like on Spanish wikipedia : just a black banner on the top of the page , but you can still access the page.
English wikipedia was just annoying. I support ant-SOPA , but I want to go on websites!
Well, I understand beeing pissed off. But redirect that beeing pissed off to your governments. They are the ones responsible. The current status quo with sited offline is just what will happen in the long run – act against it.
FarFar
You know, that’s the reasoning that madman in Norway used for his massacre?
“It had to be done, dont be angry at me, but at those who permit this society to be like it is now” or whatever the exact words were.
The term is “Frontier Justice” if i’m not mistaken?
FarFar brings up a good point that I feel you have misrepresented. If I may, FarFar, I’m going to restate what you’ve said in an effort to clarify: “Shall we blame the protesters, or the government action they are protesting?”
Your counterpoint gave me pause, however. I thought to myself: “Huh – A crazy guy once misused that logic to defend the indefensible! Maybe Alblaka’s right and we should never use that logic again.”
It’s all about whether “The end justifies the means.”, i guess.
Really guys? You can’t live without some sites for a day? I’m more worried about ACTA now. SOPA eats dirt while Google is on free internet side. But this silent debates about ACTA really pisses me off. Hope it will be defeated too.
That is just not right. If the USA is starting to shut down sites, the sites move out from the USA. To piratebayland, russia, whatever. If the US goes to them, they just tell them that the laws are valid only in that other continent, best regards. The same will happen beacuse the patent law. They just wont get the great stuff.
Dont shut down sites, we dont care about the US’s inner problem.
If one country starts, exspecially if it’s one of the most powerful worldwide, it may very well hit other coasts.
Thus this IS to some degree a mater of everyone using the internet.
Unless you live in epic countrys like Swiss and stuff, where laws are much less strict and overly-crappedup then in, f.e., Germany.
PS: Not sure whether it’s spelled Swiss… or Switzerland… or whatever. May it was Austria to begin with, not sure.
Hehe, I live in Hungary, if you ask me i would be very happy if the EU could kick our leaders … But ie. downloading here is legal, uploading is not, and there is just not enought money to control the internet (here).
Also if you disable javascipt wikipedia works.
I can understand the annoyance caused by total blackout of sites, but imo that is the best way to reach most of the internet community, not just the forum readers. If Google wanted, they could have the largest impact: Blackout YouTube for a day and the entire internet community would know. That one act could probably provide more of an impact than all the news and blackouts up to this point combined.
Just my $0.02
And putting a bold red text on youtube.com with a link relinking readers to the actual side would have the same effect MINUS blackout contraproductivity.
Since we’re talking about a big company, they could very well put a informative video instead, the relink only appearing after you fully watched it or similar stuff. <<< Kinda makes all arguments "but people wouldnt read/notice the message and just move on to the site" invalid.
yeah, saw this after my post.
They COULD do that. It would be efficient, but they opted to play the big card and scare everyone on the table. It’s their right, and yes they are losing money with this, but we have to understand, it’s their existence that’s at stake here.
You said somewhere that politicians couldn’t be that stupid, the scary thing is, the bill (if made into law) has nothing to do with politicians, but with commercial companies. It gives THEM the power to shut down websites with the excuse of copyright violation. You think they wouldn’t be that stupid? Bethesda lawsuit against Mojang, there.
This is about money, not morals, and when money is involved… well, you get the point.
“Bethesda lawsuit against Mojang, there.”
Ouch pretty much.
I’m not much into American politics and thus aren’t fully aware of whether and to which degree lobbyism is a problem in your Congress. If it’s really that big, someone should probably overhaul the government system or at least it’s representants as whole.
I’m not american, but I’m more or less aware of things. I watched one of the hearings for SOPA (livestream), and it’s ridiculous to say the least. They have no idea of what they’re talking about, and they openly admit it.
Let’s not turn this into conspiracy theories chat, but it’s not that easy, american “democracy” is here to stay for a while I’m sure…
Lobbyist basically write the laws in America nowdays. Entire budgets in heavy handed corporations are spent JUST to influence law making and policy: both foreign and domestic. The act is a gun given to the rich to not only shoot down competition, but profiteer off those attempting to even express themselves on the market. The biggest ploy the corporations want right now is the ability to protect their profits from the ‘open domain’, because that’s the only thing that can harm their monopoly on music and movies. People are getting fed up with the ripoffs that are movie tickets and CD prices. But you can’t tell that to the people who make ridiculous profit off of them…
Dosent matter if they pass or not. Congress signed a treaty with around 30 other nations that does this exact same thing but makes it even easier for your average person to shut a site down.
Mind labelling which congress? And probably give a linked source for that statement, would like to read that one.
I would like to know about that too.
Well… the european union had a statement posted on this very subject (point 25.):
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+MOTION+P7-RC-2011-0577+0+DOC+XML+V0//DE
The problem lies mainly in the law under which a company operates. Facebook and Google would be totally screwd, like Twitter. Because they have to check every post, video, upload, link for copyright-issues, which isn’t duable.
Second most european companies aren’t directly affected. Not america provides domains, it is an international institution. This includes .net, .com only .us could be shut down world-wide. Everything else would break international laws. But they could block such sides.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr3261ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr3261ih.pdf
If someone wants to read the bill.
This part is one of many that are complaint about:
the U.S.-directed site is primarily
9 designed or operated for the purpose of,
10 has only limited purpose or use other than,
11 or is marketed by its operator or another
12 acting in concert with that operator for use
13 in, offering goods or services in a manner
14 that engages in, enables, or facilitates—
So a site that actually enables you to break copyright, or helps you to break copyright is illegal and should be shut down. This is true for Google for example, since it helps greatly because you could search with it for torrents etc.
That’s the SOPA bill, that we’re discussing.
“There are two infinite things: The universe and the human stupidity.” “…and I’m not sure about the universe!” -Einstein.
Even China understands that censoring the internet is a bad idea and they run the great firewall… As individuals we are capable of achieving everything we do now without the internet – the web just gives us access to vast amounts of information that would take time without this resource. This argument of copyright infrigments and intelectual property rights is an old hat argument and in internet times completely pointless in my opinion. Once people copied tapes and vhs vidoes, now its mp3’s and avi files… so what! The only diffrence is speed and availability. You take away the internet and these infringments will still happen. Its like tax it never gets cheaper.
“You can’t stop the signal!”
Hey, if you need a new minecraft.jar you can click force update when in the minecraft launcher
minecraft_server.jar, sorry if i misstyped that.
I’ve got one in meanwhile, though by probably illegit means, given i obtained Mojangs code from a different source then their own download. (Given the server.jar is freely avaible for everyone though… probably not applying).
so on other news, I suppose that you will be releasing for 1.1 after all right?
And how is the agriculture system coming, happy with it?
As i’ve said, i’m not a friend of the idea to blackout as a protest, won’t impede IC²’s developement.
If everything goes fine, which it usually doesn’t, a open beta release (beta because we made too many chances to ensure the casual 99% bugfreeness) should be released today. Which is a long time, given its 00:28 am here :3
Crops are fine so far. Still needs some value tweaking and MUCH more content. I’m looking forward to see modders using the API to enricht IC’s plantlife.
Great! I’m just waiting on IC to update my personal pack to 1.1 😛 can’t wait to see the new features!
Will there be any new features (as small as they may be) besides the crops?
Hmmmm… Minor recipe tweaks, macerating bones, painting wool… some casual stuff.
If alex finishes his stuff up in time, you will get overclockers, as well :3
It’s mainly an update for addon-modders, given we transferred all items and recipes and stuff to the API for better access.
So we should take all the websites hosted in USA
fuck SOPA
…and host them in Europe
And then you would need to install DNS-circumventing tools to access sites hosted outside of US. But yes, that would kinda be the counter.
Or you could take a bit of time to learn the IP address of your favourite America-based sites? It might not help much, but it could. Since the block would only affect the domain name service, which I think is what you use when you type in industrial-craft.net. I admit, I have no idea what I’m talking about. If someone could come along and clarify what I’m saying, that would be lovely.
Well thats the point of a strike, its also about demonstrating on how dependent we are on these technologies. I dont agree with you that they could have achieved it otherwise, it was a good thing to raise the awareness, i for myself didnt know about this till yesterday. I highly doubt that i would have read so deep into it just by getting some info off media sites.
If you apply that to real life strikes, sure you could say, they as well could have voiced their opinions without going on strike. True, but to show that you can stand united has some advantages that a quiet protest doesnt have:
Its election period in the states and to know that so many potential voters right now are against this is heaven for obama. Hence his public move against this law now. This is how politics works and i think it was smart to do it that way. Those PIPA lobbyists can rot in hell, and they have (hopefully) been defeated by their own weapons now.
Alblaka, I agree with you that it is annoying not to be able to use the sites, but I think the reason we didn’t see a protest like you describe (“We don’t like SOPA” Click here to continue) Is that this simply wouldn’t get any attention in the media. It is sad, but in my opinion true, that we have to go to these “extremes” just to get heard.
But then again I think this whole internet protest have been a great success, SOPA is dropped for now, and we can see that it does help to protest sometimes. I’m hoping this will encourage other people to protest against other bills like the NDAA and the Patriot Act in the future, and hopefully someday we wont have to shutdown aka. strike to get the attention of the lawmakers and the media.
And it sounds good with the update cant wait to see what this crop update is going to bring 😀
Sadly deep pockets have tenacity and the resources to continue resurrecting the evil in to new and more powerful forms. This evil will not be vanquished until we (citizens in each and every country) exorcise the money, revolving doors and greed from politics. I have my own views and solutions for these things, but it all starts with raising awareness and forming collectives that can get the right kinds of progressives in to office; an extremely rare breed willing to change the very system that got them in and thus remove the biggest impediment to truly representing the people’s will.
You remind me of a friend of mine. A friend of mine that I agree with. Kudos! Hehe, I love that word. :3
Whilst it is annoying Alblaka, it’s needed sadly. Going through my friends list on Facebook, I have seen tonnes of people going “WTF is this SOPA thing”. Clearly, they didn’t even bother to read the information on the Wiki page, but it shows that not enough people know about these bills. It was probably the best way to get this information across.
And whilst we can’t do much about it since a lot of use don’t live in the US, we can still show our support for those opposing the bills.
sites shut down to demonstrate how sopa will be when it comes(if it comes)
sopa will shut down sites you like(it it has copyrighted material that someone has stolen)
imagine that youtube went down or any other cool website.
the point is to how how the internet will be if you sites goes black.
exactly! this is the main point.
thumbs up!
*cough* *burns documents supporting SOPA and PIPA and the bills themselves* *cough*
What, sorry, did something happen? What’s that burning smell coming from?
*whistles innocently*
Alblaka while I agree with your stance of the blackout being obtrusive in nature, it was the point of the blackout that you seem to be missing. This protest could of been taken even further with Google and Facebook actually blacking out their websites in protest. Just kicking and screaming is not going to get the attention of the members of the United States Congress. It is times like these where actions speak louder than words.
I did not (and do not) support SOPA/PIPA (nor any other law that would censor the internet) and I took my site down for the protest as well. The internet is the last place where freedom of expression rules, free from government propaganda and rule. These two acts (which only was supported by the MPAA and RIAA) would of changed the face of the internet. No longer could loyal fans of Minecraft and the various mod developers (love the new IC2 btw) could create and share videos, but eventually the laws would be twisted in a fashion that if a person says something unpopular to government opinion they could in fact face jail time for it.
Sadly though it is only a matter of time before such a law sneaks into the books. I am certain they will find a way to attach it to another bill that will force the president into signing it or destroy a second piece of legislation. I just hope it is not in my lifetime, but for now the support for both bills has fallen through (most congressional supporters dropped it like a Enriched Uranium Ignot) and the President has already expressed that any bill that would violate our constitutional rights to free speech and expression would be vetoed at his desk.
The blackout was only a preview of what the internet would be like. Don’t be mad at the people making the blackout it was only a way to reach the people who didnt knew about it and it worked. http://www.google.com/trends/?q=sopa&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0
Back on the issue about SOPA, have you heard about megaupload being taken down?
It’s an amazing story. Apparently the american justice department doesn’t need any kind of law to got to ANOTHER COUNTRY and arrest NON AMERICAN CITIZENS because an entertainment company (Universal) cried on how megaupload has made them lose millions of moneys.
The ironic thing is this happened on the day after the wikipedia, etc protests.
If this doesn’t scare the s**t out of you, I don’t know what could.
Horde of giant acid-spitting spider-alien-monsters?
Didn’t hear of the megaupload thing yet, only about the planned Anonymus attack on Sony.
Mixing Xenomorphs with the bugs from Starship Troopers? It would be so awesome.
And that’s nothing compared to upcoming creeper AI on minecraft.
I foresee many screaming…
On Sony? That’s interesting. They did take down some government websites, in what’s considered the biggest online retaliation ever.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/287428,anonymous-threatens-sony-with-anti-sopa-attack.aspx
As always it’s hard to determine how much of it is true, but if they really plan something like that, Sony IS screwed. Seriously, there aren’t enough firewalls in the world to stop a bunch of dedicated smart hackers.
I’d be surprised if it’s true. Doesn’t sound like Anonymous to do something like that.
They purposely have stayed with the DDOS attack method (afaik) because it’s non violent, and they’re against violence.
Turning Sony’s website into a torrent list is a dangerous move, they’re just giving everyone reasons to hate them, and I don’t know their opinion on piracy, but supporting it is bad.
A claim is they want to show they’re not just scriptkiddies launching DDOS’ at everything.
Let’s see how it turns out :3
I agree with you on the things you said in your post, Alblaka.
I don’t think SOPA/PIPA is a good idea – but people who blacked out their own sites in protest were just doing the government’s work for them, for the day.
They say they “wanted to give people a taste of what it’s like”, but that’s NEVER been the best way to raise awareness. All it does is to breed animosity towards the cause.
I’d dare to say that no politician who supports the act was in any way inconvenienced by the blackouts, and that most of the people affected are too poloticially apathetic to do anything about it anyhow. It was, at most, a momentary interruption of the status quo.